Document ISO/IEC/JTC 1/SC 22/WG 23 N0698

Draft Agenda Pre-Meeting 48 Telecon
6 March 2017

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13 February 2017: 2100-2300 UTC

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JTC1/SC22/WG23 pre-meeting 48 Webex

Monday, March 6, 2017

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1 Opening activities

1.1 Opening Comments

1.2 Introduction of Participants/Roll Call

1.3 Procedures for this Meeting

1.4 Approval of previous Minutes (for face-to-face meetings only)

1.5 Review of actions items and resolutions, Action Item and Decision Logs

1.6 Approval of Agenda [N 0680]

1.7 Future Meeting Schedule


Pre-mtg 55



12-14 September 2018

Ottawa Canada


15-16 June 2018

With WG 9 and Ada Europe




TBD April 2018

Czech Republic

Pre-mtg 52

TBD March 2018


22-23 January 2018

Phoenix, AZ




Teleconference (UTC 2000, 2 hr)



Teleconference (UTC 2000, 2 hr)


17-18 August 2017

BSI London (with SC 22 Plenary)


19-20 June 2017

Vienna, Austria with Ada Europe(2 day)



Teleconference (UTC 2000, 2 hr)


6-7 April 2017

IBM Markham, Canada (2 day)


2. Liaison Activities (not for discussion at this meeting)

2.1 SC 22

2.2 PL 22 (Open)

2.3 PL22.3/WG5 (Fortran)

2.4 WG4 (COBOL)

2.5 WG9 (Ada)

2.6 PL22.11/WG14 (C)

2.7 PL22.16/WG21 (C++)

2.8 Ecma International, TC49/TG2 (C#)

2.9 Ecma International, TC39 (ECMAScript)

2.10 MISRA (C)

2.11 MISRA (C++)

2.12 SPARK

2.13 SC7/WG19 (UML)

2.14 SC27/WG3, WG4 Security

2.15 Other Liaison Activities or National body reports

3. Document Review

3.1 TR 24772-1 Vulnerabilities, language independent

Document N0696 on Fault Tolerance [REU] was submitted by Erhard Ploedereder following the last Webex. We will consider it for Part 1.

Document N0689, clause 40 Templates and Generics.

At the present time, clause 40 reflects the view of templates and generics from a perspective similar to Ada. C++ has a different model of generics. This meeting is to discuss the different models of templates and generics, and determine how to update 6.40 to reflect a broader view and to capture what vulnerabilities exist from the C++ model.

Since attendees from a WG 21 background are not familiar with the document, our style of writing and constructing vulnerability descriptions, nor the model presented in clause 6.40, we defered discussion from the last WebEx telecon.

3.2 TR 24772-2 Ada language specific part

The Ada Part has been returned to WG 9 to incorporate writeups for the additional sections on OO vulnerabilities.

3.3 TR 24772-3 C language specific part

3.4 TR 24772-4 Python language specific part

3.5 TR 24772-8 Fortran

3.6 TR 24772-9 C++

C++ members attended the WG 21 meeting in Kona, 27 Feb – 3 March. They will report back on discussions with WG 21 leadership and ways that we can create a Part 9 for C++.

3.7 Bibliography for each TR24772 Part

3.8 Dirty Dozen Rules for C, generic, and other languages

4 Strategy (Face to face meetings only)

5 Publicity (Face to face meetings only)

6 Other Business

6.1 Review of Assignment of responsibilities

7. Resolutions and Action Items

8. Adjournment